Spearboy

What motivates me to post about this planche that I have designed and developed is not commercial interest but rather to make life easier and more enjoyable for those who like to hunt in the ocean. It is a passion of mine and I saw a need for this board I created. I do not want to upset the moderators/admin by coming into this forum and spamming about my product. I have deep respect for the spearfishing community at every level.

following is a summary in photos of my float from the beginning to the present:

My nanny had to go to China to care for her dad who was ill which forced me to stay at home with my kids so I started getting creative....


I contacted some rotational molding companies and they introduced me to an excellent engineer - Guy Cazort, he helped me put my design into 3D CAD.......



Then began the physical process of making a wooden copy......



Then began the cast aluminum mold....


I then began negotiating with several rotational molders - prices varied quite a bit (from about $3 per pound to 6 per pound) Rotonics made my first test parts...



Currently the mold is receiving some modifications and I am working on finishing details - e.g. straps, hardware, attachment points, etc. It will be ready very soon.

hello echinoderminator
spearboy is a forum to exchange information on spearfishing ..
Commercial intention is not welcomed
please can you specify your goal ?
you can speak about material, share your experience ......
but no advertisement
thank you

je vous raconte pas la galère pour écrire 3 mots
j'espère qu'il y a suffisamment de tact dans ce petit texte

I am just a spearfisherman that made a float and that is all. I'm not here to make money but rather to contribute to the world of spearfishing if I can do so. Just erase the post as I had no intention to break your rules.

echinoderminator a écrit : I'm not here to make money but rather to contribute to the world of spearfishing if I can do so.

hello
That did not appeared to me so clearly at first (sure, it's because I'm a "quiche" in English)
Thanks for having clarified your post

si l'éventuelle intention de se faire connaitre sur le plancher des vaches peut être soupçonnée, il indique que c'est pas (encore) distribué chez nous. aussi, on peut considérer que ca reste dans le cadre de la présentation de ses réalisations (pas pire que les posts sur les voilures RGZ, et autres carbone dans le fofo d'à côté non?). Mais tu as raison Rouget, il vaut mieux avertir amicalement que sévir ultérieurement

@ Echino
put it as a rucksack sounds good, I didn't see it on french boards, for the "radio antenna" wearing the flag too
On the pics I don't see where is located the dry storage area. does it not a lil' heavy?

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Callianassa83 a écrit :si l'éventuelle intention de se faire connaitre sur le plancher des vaches peut être soupçonnée, il indique que c'est pas (encore) distribué chez nous. aussi, on peut considérer que ca reste dans le cadre de la présentation de ses réalisations (pas pire que les posts sur les voilures RGZ, et autres carbone dans le fofo d'à côté non?). Mais tu as raison Rouget, il vaut mieux avertir amicalement que sévir ultérieurement

@ Echino
put it as a rucksack sounds good, I didn't see it on french boards, for the "radio antenna" wearing the flag too
On the pics I don't see where is located the dry storage area. does it not a lil' heavy?

edit: tout a été dit

It is a little heavy yes - 6-7kg but it is 6-7 kg of quality materials that should last a very long time. Personally I don't think it is heavy. The dry storage will be opposite the flag in the front.
http://beckson.com/stowdp.html
I don't think the administrators want me posting here so unless I hear otherwise this will be my last post here on this subject. Thanks
John

echinoderminator a écrit :I should not have posted here. Apologies.

of course you can post here! Our moderator just want to be sure that it wasn't a commercial topic.
As far as I undestand you here:

echinoderminator a écrit :I am just a spearfisherman that made a float and that is all. I'm not here to make money but rather to contribute to the world of spearfishing if I can do so. Just erase the post as I had no intention to break your rules.

that's okay! you didn't have to erase it!
In order to be sure, You can wait for an "official" agreement from the admins, but I think all's good.

echinoderminator a écrit : It is a little heavy yes - 6-7kg but it is 6-7 kg of quality materials that should last a very long time. Personally I don't think it is heavy. The dry storage will be opposite the flag in the front.
http://beckson.com/stowdp.html

thanks!
Is the nylon bag put inside the hull with just the ring in the board surface?

to install the deck plate a 100mm hole is cut, gasket and/or adhesive is applied around the hole then the rim placed on that. The rim can be riveted or fastened using standard hardware. It is important to use the correct type of adhesive - one that will work with both polypropylene and polyethylene. It is also important to install it where there is plenty of strength. The board is very strong in that location because of all that is going on there. Once installed the nylon bag is just place inside and the lid twisted on, the lid is watertight.

Are you sure it's cool to post here on this subject?
My main intention here is to gauge whether or not France will use this float and so in a sense I do have commercial interests. At this point I have made zero money on this float and have spent lots of money making it. I anticipate it taking a while to break even. My motivation to undertake this project was not commercial but simply for the fact that I recognized a need for this board in my own activities and thought it could be of use to others as well. The design process is extremely rewarding - becoming deeply entrenched in 3D mode is addictive.

It is about one week away from going into production. My first boards will be given to various distributors, shop owners, spearos, etc. to test out and promote my planche. There is significant endorsement thus far from very reputable entities. I have been propositioned by some manufacturers to license it to them but I don't want to because it will make the board more expensive.

I am also working on another float that will utilize the entire hull for storage rather than a limited cargo area that is self bailing. It will also be insulated making it effectively an "icey planche" but that is another story. The reason I made this self bailing with scuppers was so that it would be unsinkable - the storage area can be accessed with no possibility of compromizing the buoyancy.

I would be more than happy to contribute a board to the forum if there is a tounament where it can be given away or something to that effect.

if it's just to gauge the french opinion about your float, that don't really suck. If you fear anything, you can simply present your realisation without any word about your prospecting intentions
here the most common boards looks like this:
http://www.scubaland.fr/kit-planche-div ... ivers.html
http://www.scubaland.fr/bouee-tech-atol ... ersub.html



in my opinion, it could be a little too heavy and too "sturdy" in front of the main part of french conditions, but why not if design, functionnality and comfort are up-market? The bill is the most important factor I think...

Callianassa83 a écrit :if it's just to gauge the french opinion about your float, that don't really suck. If you fear anything, you can simply present your realisation without any word about your prospecting intentions
here the most common boards looks like this:
http://www.scubaland.fr/kit-planche-div ... ivers.html
http://www.scubaland.fr/bouee-tech-atol ... ersub.html



in my opinion, it could be a little too heavy and too "sturdy" in front of the main part of french conditions, but why not if design, functionnality and comfort are up-market? The bill is the most important factor I think...

The bill? do you mean money? I think the dive hunter float is nice but for my needs it would probably deflate. I think the most like it is the sub ideal and talarmin. I think it is good to have as much variety for spearos to choose which suits their needs. My board is probably best suited to the Atlantic side of France, though I think it is also useful on the Mediterranean side.

echinoderminator a écrit : The bill? do you mean money?

of course! you can see the price of lower quality boards than your on the links. Personnaly I think the dive hunter is already horribly expensive, so few people will be okay to pay more if the conditions are not hard enough to justify the investment, or the quality level really up-market. Well... as this topic isn't commercial, it could be wrong to deal with price or anything else here ... but in USA, how many bucks for one in a classic scuba-shop? just for an idea?

200 US Dollars = 138 euros. some shops will sell it for 250. Frankly, it should be more but I want it to be within reach.

I noticed there are some threads here that are obviously commercial with zero backlash from the moderators. Is there a distinction between what I am doing and what they are doing?

if it don't go too far, there is a lil' tolerance, but just lil'
the most part of those topics come from users who have questions about some products, or discuss about their own (good or bad) impressions. but it's less ( the most part of time, clearly not, for example the worldwide apnea champion topic has been moderated, even if he is adulated as god himself in France...) tolerated when the designer himself come and deal . I think you know what I mean It's not so bad, I don't come here to be bored by spams and tons of announcements.

echinoderminator a écrit : I noticed there are some threads here that are obviously commercial with zero backlash from the moderators. Is there a distinction between what I am doing and what they are doing?

If you refer to the post you sent to me by MP: the spearboy who posted this has been active on the forum for many years before and had no commercial interest (moreover, he actually did ask before to the moderators/admin if it was OK)

In other words, you can continue to post if you want to exchange experiences with others.

oh p.... il faut parler americain maintenant?????????????

poulpe a écrit :oh p.... il faut parler americain maintenant?????????????

J'essaierai mon mieux mettre mon dialogue en français. J'apprécie le fait qui certains de vous parlez anglais couramment. Je me rends compte je suis nouvel et peux être ici pas bienvenu par tout mais j'ai l'espoir qui comme spearos que nous sommes connectés dans ce sens. Je me sens que notre expérience dans l'océan nous donne une conscience collective qui transcende la nationalité.

I will try my best to put my dialogue in French. I appreciate the fact that some of you are fluent in english. I realize I am a newcomer here and may not be welcome by all but I have hope that as spearos we are connected in that sense. I feel that our experience in the ocean gives us a collective consciousness that transcends nationality.

rouget a écrit :

echinoderminator a écrit : I noticed there are some threads here that are obviously commercial with zero backlash from the moderators. Is there a distinction between what I am doing and what they are doing?

If you refer to the post you sent to me by MP: the spearboy who posted this has been active on the forum for many years before and had no commercial interest (moreover, he actually did ask before to the moderators/admin if it was OK)

In other words, you can continue to post if you want to exchange experiences with others.

I appreciate your willingness to let me post. I am not here to make sales. I like this forum - lots of great dialogue.

J'apprécie votre complaisance me permets de poste. Je ne suis pas ici de faire des ventes. J'aime ce forum - beaucoup de grand dialogue.

c etait un "joke"

tu es bien sur le bienvenue

Ah ... j'imagine les MP avec les modos ...
"Can i post about my planche "

"YES , YOU CAN"